Dude it’s so bad. This is going to sound weird but it’s almost like a subculture or genre can become inbred when the only people creating anything are the same people whose lives are shaped by the thing they’re creating. Like porn would be better if it was just made by people who have other lives outside of it.

I can’t help but feel at one time most people didn’t seek out that but over time it’s slowly become all that there is. And you’re right, this is all putting aside just how exploitative and abusive the producers and film makers are

I used to get decent results in the “amateur” or “for women” categories but that was before 2019 when most sites purged anything that wasn’t industry-made

Ooh, excellent! Can I update my post to show this instead??

It comes from watching the most niche of porn categories:

Consenting adults of no familial relation and no overt power dynamic. Completely depraved shit, you can’t find it anywhere anymore

I’ve been trying to sneak in other fonts to any oc I make. I’m definitely tired of the binary ALL CAPS or twitter screenshot

You’ve missed a couple. Why’d you give up?

That’s kind of what I’m leaning towards. Pixels are cheap second-hand and having owned one previously I liked the hardware. I just wish I had known about graphene back then. I think graphene is starting to support a few other devices now though?

Thanks, I’ll probably be looking into something like those when my current phone dies. I’m not on a “switch phones immediately” budget so I just had to settle with ripping shit out of my device with Shizuku

The way he squashes that gut out below his vest: iconic. What a brave hero, I’m sure so many enemies will literally be firing on him in Wyoming

Thanks 😁

Fuck yeah I am. I’ve got a living playlist of lectures I can add this into, thank you!

Actually I see a yt video at the top of the page here, can I watch all the episodes there as an option?

Oh no. It turned him into anime

Lol what even is this?

That’s so cool of them. Now I need to know the origin of the rumor then. Is this child-created folk lore? That adults just decided to make real?

Ooh you know I actually didn’t, I was just assuming he was being serious considering the non-secular time he existed in. But I didn’t exactly think he was talking about the results being literal eternal suffering or paradise either. In my misconception I had thought he was proposing to live as a functional faith practitioner and just reap the tangible benefits of that when you’re alive. So thanks for prompting me to actually look at it.

You already know I love youtube. I’ll get to that first before the books but probably not before the further Wikipedia articles I got recommended in this thread. Is it cool if I message you any thoughts she stirs up? I definitely appreciate people who can identify pro-social and useful facets of problematic ideologies.

Really? Maybe that’s how I got my misconception of it. My favorite thing about this thread is I’m getting a lot of stuff to reexamine, so this ones moving to the top of the list.

Dude, that would be so sick! I really love Monster Manuals! One of the Gnostic thought people I talked to recently actually showed me a video that was showcasing the different deities in a similar way, but as Tumblr art characters. Very entertaining.

I hadn’t considered that angle for our discussion here but that’s true. The biggest damage any Faith-based theology is doing to incentivising people to decouple from tangible reality. I won’t ever defend that, I just don’t know of a way it’s possible for anyone to widely convince people to stop doing it.

I’ll consider that last part. That seems like an idea I’ll have to examine for a bit. Thank you for engaging and for all the recommendations, Schipelblorp 🙂 Always a pleasure

Oh damn, this made me have to look up Pascal’s Wager in order to follow and that is NOT what I thought it was. And it’s not nearly as actionable as I was giving it credit for.

For sure, though. It’s not like Gnostic thought is terribly useful in a modern context. It’s just the joy of discovering old models of belief. Also they’re colorful. I mostly wanted to know if you have any favorite characters from it because most people who engage with that or pre-Christian cults tend to find a funny little guy that they latch onto.

There’s a couple people who I interacted with who have derived some personal viable uses from the Gnosticism, but it’s kind of way too specific to recommend widely. One was definitely engaging with that “world as a torture device” lense and admitted that these kind of ways of thinking lend themselves pretty greatly to paranoid disorders.

Alright this is going to be a bit of an indulgent bpersonal diatribe, but hear me out. Generally when I’m assessing the worth of religion I try to look at the cost/benefit of it existing, not really whether it’s factually true or politically just. Catholicism definitely full of lies and its atrocities are really the same as any monarchist structure and equally indefensible. Also as you say, craven.

But here’s what people within it at the very bottom are getting from the deal:

• an accountability system that puts physical personal cost on their choices
• a working historical account getting built onto and preserved as time goes on
• a system of quasi-electoral government that was a country at one time but now gets to act as a diplomatic power in the world

Just saying, those are the exact opposite of what Christianity takes from you as a person living within it

Agreed, though. That’s kind of one of the things I appreciate about Judaism, the pluralism and the de-emphasis on Faith. I’ve been dipping my toes tentatively into some Gnostic histories, and proto Christian stuff. I’ll look at the Gnostic Gospels next, then. Do you have a personal favorite little blorbo from cults of that period?

Sweeeet, I’ve been curious about this since my first assumption has always been that “Bros” just were doing Stoicism in its best possible interpretation. Maybe I’m too critical of it and not of them.

That’s valid and a pretty widely agreed on belief. I tend to make a few more concessions for Hebrew and Catholicism because they have controls and political structures for negating barbarism built in to their scriptures, even if those controls have failed in both past and recent history.

The difference with Christianity from those is you’re given leave by the text to engage selectively and do post-modern interpretations of what Jesus wants or the personal cost of not living up to his expectations. Like it’s not that he’s being ignored, it’s that his sacrifice canceled any price I have to pay for my actions in this life. You’re right, though. The person Christ was pretty different from the faith that inherited his name, they probably wouldn’t have had much to do with eachother if he had a choice in the matter. Mainly because he was a Jew and that’s not compatible with how Christians want to believe he was.

In the text it means any choice you make that sacrifices long term benefits for instant gratification. Nietzsche was way into promoting things that give you pleasure, just not at the cost of your health and prosperity

Obviously Hedonic Philosophy isn’t about that either but he wasn’t thinking of hedonism as a philosophy, he was describing a problem humans have with how we make choices