You’re right it’s definitely a nuanced topic where a bunch of questions like this, along with things like the brains development and maturation as a machine into 30-mid 30s would be important to discuss.

All I know is politicians who obviously can’t be trusted make laws that allow the interests of their donors/lobbyists to decide people can drink/smoke their products, go into porn/to war etc. Not an actual interest, understanding and desire to make sure people are allowed their inalienable independence while also “protecting” them.

I also know I was a hopped up lil shit who was more than happy to find my own ways of accessing things only adults should have, after gaining adult status felt like not only me but the people my age around me weren’t capable of realizing the actual repercussions of some of the choices we were making and even now I can’t fathom thinking I’ll be done developing until I hit dementia and/or death.

Maybe what we have now (varies across societies) is best but I’d think if we put our minds to it we could come up with something better. That being said if I feel so inclined to partake & given the option, I’ll still chose a Midwest bar with a 25-30+ age limit over the anyone over 21 option

Nah man, you were right. Brain development is an appropriate metric, more so than random laws made by probable pedos. Not sure why the user you responded to said brain development has nothing to do with adulthood. I’d say it’s more sound than whatever we decide at the time because it fits a narrative and benefits our societies (which are still often exploitive)

I’d almost understand where you’re coming from but most of us can’t afford a ship to explore, a slip in the marina, or even a property/room on the shore. For some of us, staring out at the ocean & capturing images from land is all we have. There’s gotta be a better way that doesn’t ruin it for the majority.

Anyone remember the weasel?

If we keep this up, we’ll never reach Steins Gate.