Moving around is not easy if you want to actually preserve any of your preferences. The blocklist alone tends to add up really quick. But I agree mostly on the communities: pure “if you build it, they will come” thinking, while it doesn’t really work that way.
In theory. In practice I don’t think it works at all. Discoverability on this thing is pretty awful (bluesky has that issue too) and you would need that to be better and the actual experience of “moving around” to suck a lot less, for that to actually work.
Lemmy doesn’t dogpile the way Reddit did.
It does. A bunch of us just happen to agree a lot more and the entire place is much smaller, so it doesn’t come up as often. It’s human psychology, people do this by default. Call me a cynic but there’s no place or case on Earth where that doesn’t happen in one way or another and it damn sure does here.
That kind of mobility has limitations - I’ve personally gotten a supposed mainline instance rugpulled with no upfront way of knowing - tons of blocklist (because, y’know) and what few communities seemed worth following, all down the drain.
Federation is supposed to solve that problem but just doesn’t: it works inconsistently and with a bunch of arbitrary politicking involved: why’s this instance block that one, why doesn’t everyone block you-know-which-ones, etc. The idea of a “community” being instance level means that malicious instances have a lot of room to fuck around and make things awkward and unpleasant, as we’ve seen. It also makes discoverability and searchability doodoo.
Like, it’s technically true, it’s just not as practical and rose colored as it seems when people want federation to be a general cure-all for Reddit shittiness, instead of the one overhyped random implementation detail it actually is in all this.
blind hate for anything done by america and lack of nuance
snort.
I don’t even disagree that that exists, but that was funny.
There’s also a certain type of person that just… posts that shit. I’m not saying they’re bots or not bots or any damn thing, because there’s tons of bot spam anyway, but I think you’re underestimating how intensely shit some people’s meme game is
It’s a bunch of shitty memes and cartoons and it’s awful.
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federation keeps it from being corpo controlled
No it doesn’t? It makes it mildly difficult by making sure any corpo, if it cared to, would need to control a significant-ish amount of the instances. There’s no clear reason to do that, which is nice, because it would be pretty hard to defend against.
“Federation” is used on here as a magical buzzword that fixes shit, it doesn’t do that. It’s an implementation detail that’s meant to make certain things better but mostly only makes them more complicated. It just means that you have a bunch of minireddits that vaguely and inconsistently interact with each other and have a lot of overlapping stuff, communities and such.
On which count?
Which should surprise absolutely nobody - the user base is redditors and… people who used to be redditors. “Used to be” for various reasons, including being too shrill, insufferable, spammy or malicious… for Reddit. Not exclusively, though, of course.
Either way, whatever annoys you about Reddit, you’ll more than likely find it here. Y’know, to the degree you find anything on here between the ghost town factor and incredibly stupid architecture.
both Europe and the EU have a lot of countries with different cultures
Though to be fair, forgetting that is very much in character for our American friends.
On one hand I’m not sure elaborating would be a good idea, on the other the broad strokes are “spin up a few instances and be a dick in various ways”. People are already blatantly doing that anyway, so it’s not really a secret. Federation is limited - who even federates, who defederates, any other limitations, community rules and whatever else, a bunch of stuff influences the actual content you see. Random fediverse happenings (good reasons, bad reasons, outright technical failure) have already caused a bit of headache on their own, let alone what a motivated malicious actor could do.