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It seems we’ve reached an impasse. I’m not interested in doing a sources duel when you refuse to engage with anything else. The idea that media can be neatly characterized into “propaganda” and “not propaganda” is childish and absurd at face. This will be my final reply
Asking you to back up your claim
That’s a very interesting way to put “ignoring the interesting questions and coming back with the smug taunt”
Which is what you did again here.
Media control is a system that works across a whole society. I’m sure you believe that about China.
I ask again for the final time: What evidence of that pernicuous and pervasive system existing in the West would you accept?
Ok, if you insist on doing it the debatebro way
Here’s the first 3 BBC examples from https://lemmy.ml/c/ManufacturingConsent (all posted within the last week)
Inb4 “those don’t prove anything”
Yes, I asked you what evidence you would accept so will you answer that now?
Do you see now why that’s actually the interesting question?
It could be argued that you are the one making the claim. Why is the default assumption that the sources are trustworthy until proven otherwise?
Even if I accepted the burden of proof, what evidence of this would you accept?
Do you think you can read about it in your favored Western sources?
And you think all three of those are meaningfully independent from the anglo-american military/espionage cartel?
That claim is ridiculous. Name a single media source that does not slavishly serve the political context it arises from
What news source, pray tell, is not propaganda?
I only get my news from trusted CIA cutouts owned by billionaire oligarchs
This, I agree with