I was impressed with it’s accuracy AND coherency.

You know how MAGA keeps voting for a guy that can’t keep his promises to help them? Almost like they keep making choices against their own best interests?

There’s examples of what you’re talking about everywhere, the difference is just in how exagerated it is in the media.

The personal examples you mentioned are all very likely propaganda created from basic human mistakes being exagerated into something extreme to be blamed on “wokeness.” If you feel otherwise, link an article about it, and I’ll point out how it’s propaganda.

Otherwsie, should I believe all MAGA are gullible idiots that spent the last decade making up excuses for a conman pedophile to have the power to destroy their county for the profit of the Epstein class?

If you want to talk about “INSERT BLANK” pushing away people it intended to help, we should start with the biggest one right?

OR! We can understand that our own human flaws are being exagerated into weaponized propaganda.

Just because the people in MAGA were gullible enough to believe Trump wanted to help them, doesn’t mean MAGA are gullible people. It means MAGA was designed for the gullible.

So just because “woke” policies have hurt some people in those groups, it doesn’t mean all people in those groups are being hurt by “woke” policies. It just means these policies are for those “woke” groups.

You’re falling for basic propaganda that blames human error on something it’s not.

Woke was created in the 1930s with a clear intended definition, which was re-codified in court by DeSantis’ own fascist lawyers.

100% agree with this statement. I do not agree with the current definition from DeSantis’ fascist lawyers and failed to make that clear in my opening.

I SHOULD have described the word as follows instead:

Woke is NOW a made up term. It has no CLEAR definition anymore. It NOW has no consistent meaning.

That’s much more clear for what I was going for, so apologies for the confusion!

Woke is now a made up term. It no longer has a clear definition. It no longer has a consistent meaning. It does not “depend on when you became politically conscious.” it depends on if you understand and recognize yellow journalism as a thought terminating practice rather than an intelligent one.

There is no debate here. The entire conversation in the article is based on a false perspective of history as determined by the propaganda written about it rather than true events.

This article might as well be titled, “Did Jews leave us worse off?”

Because it’s literally written from the same falsely framed perspective as that statement is, and you unfortunately carried it further.

Specifically, from your summary:

“The woke crowd created problems that pushed people away that may have mostly agreed with them.”

Is not a real thing that happened. This is history as perceived by its oppressors. You might as well be stating, “The Jews created problems that pushed people away that may have mostly agreed with them.”

That problem Jews created? Existing. The problem “woke” created? Existing.

Same with “Illegal Immigrants.” Same with “Trans” Same with every single marginalized group our current oligarchs can easily blame to shift the conversation away from them stealing your tax dollars through Reagonomics to start a international child sex trafficking network.

They’re framing history as if the actions of these people and concepts are bad, despite the bad actions ONLY existing within the Propaganda they created.

Did trans people create bathroom problems that pushed people into passing bathroom laws and banning them? Or did they exist at a time there was a constant stream of propaganda saying they were?

Okay. Now ask yourself the same about “woke.” Did they actually create problems? Or did their voices exist at a time when there was a constant stream of propaganda saying they were creating a problem?

That’s why there’s a negative shift in perspective between the 90’s and 2000’s. That’s when Fox News and post 9-11 conservative propaganda started. There was no magical political awakening. It was when the fairness doctrine died and letting idiots on TV say the dumbest most un-American and unintelligent things imaginable became legal. Now to the point where propaganda is the primary perspective coming from nearly all our news channels, so we as a society can no longer easily determine what’s real from what’s a paid talking point.

So that’s why Science is now questionable. Why our Education is now questionable. And the sustainability of our economy is now questionable.

Having intelligent discussions about all of those things was what “woke” started as. And our oligarchs hated that it always boiled down to them needing to pay more to improve them. So instead of paying for a country with better science, education, and a healthy economy, they paid to convince you all those things weren’t needed, or were under attack by “woke” and that’s why they were deteriorating.

So now we can’t have a sincere discussion about politics without needing to first overcome the needlessly unintelligent shit people believe is real.

Like the concept that “woke” pushed anyone away instead of the manufactured propaganda around it that did. We’re cooked if every political conversation needs to start with a discussion on whats real or paid propaganda, but here we are.

EDIT: Updated my opening statement to be more clear on my position and that there is indeed an actual real meaning to woke.

The problem is addiction. Same as any other drug. It’s no coincidence that Facebook and X were rolled out as free services, with free accounts, where you can interact with anyone for free.

Before the digital drug dealers running each changed that deal. Needing money, running ads, and restricting what you can do that all used to be free.

These companies got us addicted to using tech in place of human socialization and then monitized that addiction.

People can’t leave because for some it’s the only human contact they have. Even if it’s artificial, they still want it to the point of it hurting themselves. Just like any other addiction.

Kinda hard to explain this concept to executives who have made their entire careers based off of dumb decisions like this. Problem is these execs never get fired or laid off, and instead get promoted upwards until all of Microsoft is doing the dumbest thing imaginable to their name. These people have never had consequence before, so are now destined to place those consequences on the company that’s kept them woefully employed.