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  • Bonsoir@lemmy.catoComic Strips@lemmy.worldFaithful
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    1 day ago

    Well, here and now, with the original comment asking to join them. I do have some anecdotes but they aren’t really relevant here, I guess.

    Here is the CRA rule and the IRS one
    Both state that “advancement of religion” is a requirement, which is quite close to proselytizing (promoting and manifesting religious belief).
    The thing is that both countries were funded by christian people, so their definition of religion is biased towards it, so you can’t really have an individualistic religion like satanism be recognized.
    We can also note that Canada is discriminating against non-theistic religions and asks quite explicitly to “support and maintain missions and missionaries to propagate the faith”. Canada is still a religious state, after all.


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    Proselytization refers to trying to convert someone to a religion, which they don’t do.

    They do claim it’s a religion. It is legally a religion. When they are recruiting, it is proselytism. Also, proselytism is part of the definition of a church in most countries, that is why, for instance, the Church of Satan is not legally a church in the US, because they do not proselytize. By their own saying and by the government, TST is a religion and they do proselytize.

    Where did I say they are a non-profit?

    You said it is just an NGO. I mean, yeah, but you could say that about pretty much anything. But clearly there is something more to it than the average NGO, with them being both a church and a couple for-profit organizations.



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    They did try to put a baphomet statue in front of a 10 commandments monument in Arkansas. They are fighting for a plurality of religion, not secularism.
    If I wanted to contribute to a secular cause, I would much rather contribute to a secular organization to begin with.

    TST does not proselytize

    But the only times you hear of them is when people are trying to get more folk implied (or when they send a lawsuit, but that’s an other story). TST plays the card of a non profit when they don’t want to be associated with religious weirdos, and the card of religion when they want a special treatment. In the end it’s a knockoff religion that hijacked the name “satanism” while replicating what they denounce of christians.

    Fire is bad so we need to recruit more firefighters to fight it.

    It’s much closer to putting up advertisement against advertisement.

    They are just an NGO.

    That’s not true. It’s a bunch of for-profit organizations coupled with a recognized nonprofit church so they can be exempted from taxation. See here : https://the.satanic.wiki/index.php/The_Satanic_Wiki . Also, as a supposedly non-profit org, they do not disclose their financial information, which is usually a big red flag.


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    Buddhism can definitely be theistic. Satanism is defined as “non-theistic”, which means it is not about the existence of a divinity in the usual meaning, so there could be atheistic and theistic satanists. Confucianism is kind of tricky because, if I recall right, it is mostly considered as a philosophy before a religion, even though it does include rituals and dogmas.

    But I do agree with you, people will see the bad things coming from major and enshitified religions and ignore that other views, other options exist.



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    “We don’t like religious symbols in public space, so let’s put more of these, yay!”
    “Proselytism is bad, so we need to recruit more people to fight it.”
    “The guy at the top is not a Nazi anymore, so it’s fine.”

    • statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged.