cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/63691775
Posted this in Fediverse Memes but got deleted for some reason, can’t imagine why.
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/63691775
Posted this in Fediverse Memes but got deleted for some reason, can’t imagine why.
I don’t know guys. Feddit is a general instance, so there are also Libs here and probably even a few Zionists. But my impression is that most people are very critical of Israel.
I saw the “controversy”: at what point do you follow unjust laws about genocidal apartheid states and say you have had enough genocide?
Is “fuck Bibi’s ethnostate” allowed?
Is “fuck apartheid religions” allowed?
I would say that “fuck Bibi’s ethnostate” is not a problem at all. “Fuck apartheid religions” could be a problem if it criticizes Jews as a group and not the ideology of Zionism. The same applies to right-wingers who accuse all Muslims of being terrorists because they are part of a terrorist religion, instead of limiting this to the ideology of Islamism. In general, I would say that it makes a very, very big difference whether one directs one’s criticism at Judaism or Jews, or at Israel and Israelis.
What is repeatedly discussed is whether moderating “Death to Israel” (or similar) and banning corresponding users is an expression of a Zionist ideology on the part of the feddit moderators. To this I would say: even if the author means Israel as a state and is not calling for the death of Israelis, he is aware of and accepts the possibility of the latter interpretation and its ambiguity. To interpret the moderation of this as Zionism is, in my opinion, exaggerated and malicious. It also empties the term “Zionism” of its analytical content.
Why Judaism in particular, when it’s not the only apartheid religion in existence? I don’t want racist religions to exist.
“Death to Israel” means both: the state, and it’s racist religion. Bibi wants the Torah’s theist ethnostate. This is why he is genociding Palestinians. We are not saying “death to jews,” we are saying “death to theist ethnostates, esp. Bibi’s interpretation killing millions of people.”
Zionists are one class above the same ethnostatism. We don’t want eithers.
Yeah if all jews were into aoartheid, fuck the whole religion.
Im pretty sure theyre not. But like if they were. Like, the problem with ‘the protocols of the elders of zion’ is that it is¹ a crock of filthy completely made up fucking lies put together to direct the peasantry’s very real frustrations at what their owners were doing against some poor fucking scapegoats who had not in fact done any of that shit. If it were true, if someone actually did do half that shit² they would totally deserve extermination!
¹until the zionists came along and started LARPing it
²like every authoritarian ruling caste ever. Or a trio of assholes in new york. Now if youll excuse me, im late to drain my blood boy.
You’re doing the thing Æquitas & I are not: associating a cultural identity to an apartheid religion. We are clearly against apartheid religions for blatant reasons. That includes Judaistic apartheism. The few non-racist Judeos are not the whole that want to see Palestinians killed.
Death to Judeo apartheism.