• pdxfed@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    2.5 years worth of fuel? I’m no disaster prepper but uh I’d want to hear about solar and batteries, etc.

    Imagine living for 2.5 years in that, somehow miraculously it not turning into a Fallout scene with a bunch of entitled rich pricks who suddenly can’t order others around, and then being forced back into the “real world” where you have nothing. What was accomplished?

    Are they going to have chefs? Do they have 2.5 years worth of food?

    If they have a sniper post you assume they understand things could be quite hostile as society finally implodes, do they have an armory? Solar powered vehicles…?

    These fuckers should all play fallout. Might realize what was lost.

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      I wonder how the fuel is stored. Under ideal conditions diesel can last 1.5-2 years. Otherwise, they only have 6-12 months.

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        You can be in my bunker, rather than rich folks I want practical knowledge to rebuild…not that diesel fuel will be a priority for potentially quite a while society rebuilds. Though if there is the intermediary Mad Max phase you will probably be leading an army…

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      And those of us who have played should do some thinking and understand the real lesson to take from the game is that cooperation is the sole way to avoid that grim outcome.

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        I always remember the Preppers show episode with the hippie commune. They were already involved with the local community and were talking about how they would just invite everyone to the party and keep scaling up. The show tried so hard to inject problems into the plan but they were the only ones who looked like they had a realistic idea. Everyone else was planning to solo the world or bug out to ???.

        Real world there are plenty of examples of the local community pulling together before the government and cops show up to take charge and screw it all up.

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          Humans are genetically disposed to cooperation.

          Our financial system is mathematically disposed to competition.

          Go figure.

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            “Humans are genetically disposed to cooperation.”

            In small groups that know each other. Even then, maybe.

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              No, really in large groups too.

              What I believe is rather, the larger the group, the larger the chance to get a few psychopaths in there that screw things up for everyone. Psychopathy seems to have a prevailance of about 1% in the population.

              Btw the division of labour economy we all live in is cooperative in nature. You might compete for roles in it, but the output of those roles is supposed to be cooperative. Anyone who’s work is purely competitive is basically someone who works solely to take something away from someone else. So essentially something akin to a thief in function. I consider that part of the problem, not part of the normal economy.