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    I feel like people say “Nazi” when they really mean “fascist”, but they’re afraid to say “fascist” because then they will be clearly referring to Republicans, and are afraid of retaliation. It’s not good. We need to normalize calling out fascists as fascists.

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      out of curiosity i was reading that stuff up, and fascist is also not clearly defined. it refers to a right wing movement in Italy, so in the same manner as “nazi” it simply compares to another group of morons.

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        You got me curious what the simplified Wikipedia entry for facism is:

        “Under fascism, the government heavily controls a country’s economy and other parts of society, usually by using a form of authoritarian corporatism. Under this system, companies and workers are supposed to work together under national unity. A fascist regime uses violence to kill or persecute anyone it does not consider useful.”

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          interesting that it differs so much from the standard English article (from which i have my knowledge). on the other hand, that is what a simple answer would be, without going into the details or background. never checked it out before

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    A thing that I often feel with pizzacake comics is that the message needs to be there regardless of wether or not we think the comics are funny.

    We are in fact talking about nazis. Doesn’t matter if they’re from WWII germany or current day USA. Or wherever and from whenever.

    There are still people who live as if it’s 6 years ago. Hell, I’m sure some still live in their heads in pre-2016 times. As if all of this fucked up shit isn’t happening under our very noses right now.

    And for those, yes it bears repeating over and over again =>Nazis are not to be negotiated with<=.

    It needs to be stated because the broad public opinion does swing back and forth on the whims of media.

    So yes, punch Nazi’s. Make old timey Superman proud.

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      And for those, yes it bears repeating over and over again =>Nazis are not to be negotiated with<=.

      To put it another way: don’t argue with people John Brown would’ve shot

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      A thing that I often feel with pizzacake comics is that the message needs to be there regardless of wether or not we think the comics are funny.

      It’s propaganda you agree with. That’s not a dig, mind you, it’s propaganda I agree with as well. A lot of intelligent people fail their wisdom checks when they hear something like that because they feel that all propaganda is wrong.

      However, it’s just a tool. A necessary one at that. Because if we’re not filling the media sphere with anti-nazi, anti-right-winged propaganda, then Nazi’s fill the space with theirs. It also improves morale, and steels the resolve of those that are also anti-nazi and anti-fascist. And encourages others to stand up and fight with both pen and weapon.

      Really, no different than Donald Duck fighting in WW2.

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        Usually comedy only tangentially touches on what’s important, or it risks turning into lectures.

        Lectures can be fine. People pay for them sometimes. When comedy becomes lectures, and keeps its old “comedy” sign out front, people, at minimum, comment on the change with disappointment.

        Maybe the important thing is more important than the comedy. It’s still a loss of comedy and an unwillingness to acknowledge the fact.

        And generally, the fewer nazis and fascists you have, the more comedy exists.

        Quite a knot.

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      Agreed. But use Superman. Or use Batman. Use a fork. Use anyone other than yourself, every single time, for every comic, ad infinitum…

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      As far as I can tell most people’s definition of a joke seems to be ‘‘something I laughed at’’ and not ‘‘a set up and punchline’’ and it’s weird. this comic is a set up and a punch line. it’s like… a most basic joke concept.

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        I mean, it explicitly doesn’t have a definite punchline. But the lack of punchline is almost functioning as a punchline.

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      Yep, so glad she’s revered here. Her endless wit and positioning herself on the opposite end of an obvious debate really warms me towards the idea that she’s not just victim propping herself for clicks. Love her.

      Edit: I should add, fuck all Nazis. But also down with pizzacake and her weak ass sauce.

  • katy ✨@piefed.blahaj.zone
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    i would love to go back to a time where comics weren’t about nazis but sadly life is full of nazis in power right now stripping peoples rights.

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    I’ve got to say that Pizzagate’s comics aren’t really peak comedy for me, but i appreciate the usage of the medium for criticism - the format spreads a lot easier and further than an essay on substack.

    Edit: Pizzacake ofc lol

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    I love pizzacake posts.

    Not bbecause I like her comics, frankly I find then boring and uninspired, but because there will ALWAYS be losers complaining about it in the comments instead of simply ignoring it lol

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      ironic shes making fun of the people complaining but her, but these people arnt self-aware enough to know that, because they only punch down.

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      Just to clarify, you like that someone has posted something you don’t like, just because other people don’t like it even more?

      Funnily enough, this one is actually pretty funny. Not so much the comic, but because someone clearly got under her skin enough to get her to make this.

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        Not liking ≠ disliking/hating

        I don’t care for her comics, the content is simply not for me so I don’t engage with it. Whether they’re posted here or not makes no difference to me.

        But the posts themselves? There’s always people complaining and, more often than not, irrationally so. They can choose to ignore them, scroll past and leave it at that. Instead, they go and write a comment of how bad this comic is and how unfunny of a content creator she is and bemoan about blocking all her content. It’s like they’re purposely putting on a circus show, and I’m all for it.

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        Personally I want Elon to get Gaddafi’d. Seems like a fitting end. Though I’m not super picky in how he bites it, just that he does.

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          I would like Elon Musky to get blasted into space with one his rockets instead of coming back to Earth. Musky floats off into space. We can all take pride in the fact, that Musky will be so high on his own farts that he would think he could fix the problem. Then, just maybe, there will be a moment of crushing self-realization when Musky realizes that he can’t fix the issue cause he doesn’t have the skill, just like the rest of his life.

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    I really don’t mind the crusade against nazis. That’s great, honestly. I just feel like I have seen most other comic artists be wittier and more skilled at presenting their ideas. I swear you can agree with someone and still not be a fan of their art.

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      It takes about 5 seconds to read it and continue scrolling. It’s not a zero sum game, her making those comics doesn’t prevent other artists from making similar ones. You can enjoy them and also enjoy this, even if you enjoy the others more. Or ignore it. Or downvote it. It don’t understand the controversy either way.

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        I didn’t even downvote it and to be honest I only ever comment on these “callout” comics complaining about negative feedback. I think this is the second time I’ve ever shared an opinion on this comic online.

        It takes about 5 seconds to read it and continue scrolling. It’s not a zero sum game, her making those comics doesn’t prevent other artists from making similar ones. You can enjoy them and also enjoy this, even if you enjoy the others more. Or ignore it. Or downvote it. It don’t understand the controversy either way.

        That is what I’m doing. Leaving a pretty tame comment on a post where the comic author is specifically addressing her audience (or critics) doesn’t seem inappropriate to me. I even said that I agree with the sentiment. What part of this basic human interaction is so offensive that you felt the need to tell me not to comment in the first place?

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      What client do you use? Most have a block function and they conveniently put the comic name in the title.