• theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Any product that includes preinstalled software/firmware will have an EULA and terms of use. You agree to the terms in the EULA by using the product. My Roku TV’s EULA is very short and concise and does not include any kind of mandate for internet connection.

    https://docs.roku.com/published/deviceplayereula

    It basically just says you can only use the TV for personal, non-commercial uses, you’re not allowed to reverse engineer or sell the software that is preinstalled on it, you have no right to sue them if you choose to use the produc, and they waive all liabilities. That’s it. Pretty standard.

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      Most products you buy these days have software in them. Anything more complex than a toaster. And some toasters.

      But they’re not magic, they’re contracts. Unless you show them to the other party and they agree they have no force. I never clicked “okay” on my bluetooth headset, my casio watch, or my Instant Pot.

      If I can use the TV without agreeing, I’m not bound by the contract.

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        I never clicked “okay” on my bluetooth headset, my casio watch, or my Instant Pot.

        You’ve never noticed the little paper booklets in the box with all those products? Try reading one next time.

        If I can use the TV without agreeing

        You literally cannot, by definition, because using the product is the action that indicates your agreement to the EULA If your TV is displaying content on the screen, it’s because you completed the initial setup on first boot, which included clicking “Okay, I have read and accepted these terms”.

        I’m not bound by the contract

        You people honestly believe software licenses just don’t apply to you? This is sovereign citizen foolishness. This isn’t the loophole you think it its, but okay, go ahead and decompile and resell the source code for your TV.

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          I’m not sure where you live, but a person has to accept a contract here, not just have it pitched in their direction with the hope they even read it.

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      Any product that includes preinstalled software/firmware will have an EULA and terms of use. You agree to the terms in the EULA by using the product

      I don’t. Especially a forced click is no agreement.

      For example if you buy some device at some dealer, then you have the right to use it as you want. This deal is enough and it already gives you all rights that are needed.

      If a manufacturer’s EULA pops up later (= has not been part of your deal before), then it is void. A click does not make a new agreement, the software maker does not become a participant in your original contract, and does not gain any rights, and cannot restrict any rights that you already have before.