• Naich@piefed.world
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    7 days ago

    Note that the person criticising the original is also not active in organising a general strike. It is permissable to hold opinions without being obliged to act on them.

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      That is true, however this is not about the acting, it’s about hypocrisy in the traditional sense. OC is essentially saying “we have the same goal and I set an easier plan and I’m currently following it, while you are criticizing my plan, making up a way harder one, saying I should follow that one while not following either mine or your plan at all.”

      It’s like when you are working in a supermarket, restocking the shelves and your coworker is just sitting on a chair watching you, and after a while he says “this is useless, you should rather do some cashier work, people are waiting” while eating candy.

      Yeah sure he might be technically right, but this is extremely out of line.

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      Why should I listen to you? You’re not actively involved in organizing a general strike either.

      You’ve opened this Pandora’s Box my friend there’s no closing it again now. It’s not being actively involved in organizing a general strike all the way down.

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        Yeah if you’re not actively involved in organizing a general strike you don’t get my vote. And since there are not any candidates meeting that criteria, I’m staying home on Election Day.

        Don’t believe me? There’s 10 of millions of US citizens who will be doing the same thing!

        Checkmate /s

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      Yea I’m really bad at organizing but I damn well know it has to be done by someone with the skill to do it.

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      I disagree about it being permissable. If anything it makes you a hypocrite and undermines the appearance of intelligence and empathy, alike. The complaint is also misguided and simply wrong. Saying nothing will change is absurd. Things are already changing. These rallies raise awareness for everyone. You can’t have a general strike until you get everyone to agree to it.

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      Yes. But the moment you release your opinion out on the wild, we’re allowed to ridicule you for them.

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        Of course you can. I’m just saying that the criticism is stupid in this case. I mean, I think that fusion power would be a good thing, but fuck me for not working 24 hours a day on a PhD in nuclear physics.

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          But that’s more like having people talk about how we should do nuclear and renewable power, and you coming along complaining people should be working on developing fusion power instead because fission power just won’t do anything

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            Not it isn’t.

            Arguing that fission power won’t do anything is objectively incorrect.

            Arguing that a general strike would be more effective than weekend rallies alone is objectively correct.

            Your analogy is not analagous.

            Beyond that, arguing against doing something is not the same as arguing for doing something else, in addition to /or/ instead of the original something.

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              Arguing that fission power won’t do anything is objectively incorrect.

              That’s an opinion, regardless of whether it’s true or not. The analogy is analogous because I’m taking the same actions and statements, applying them to analogous topics in a different field. Dismissing that because you believe your beliefs to be objective fact is just dishonest.

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                … Fission power works.

                It generates energy.

                This is objectively true.

                That is not nothing.

                If you were being hyperbolic, well then your analogy is not analagous because one end of it is hyperbolic.