• Maroon@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    IMHO, I feel people here have the Disney idea of a genie rather than the true Middle Eastern idea of a djin.

    Djins grant wishes more like the MonkeyPaw. It can horribly backfire. The protagonist is basically using logic to neutralize anything bad the djin can potentially do to him.

    • Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      6 hours ago

      I’d argue the Monkey’s Paw is a bad example because I don’t think the Monkey’s Paw is actively malicious like a djinn.

      I think Monkey’s Paw just works off of path of least resistance. What’s the fastest way to randomly get rich? Workplace accident causing life insurance payout. What’s the least effort way to revive the dead? Just make the corpse start moving again. What’s the easiest way to give a shambling corpse peace? Undo the last wish.

      I feel like a Djinn wouldn’t let you undo the reviving wish. They’d probably just put them in a coma so your son is now in a half dead comatose state forever.

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        5 hours ago

        The Monkey’s Paw seems “programmed” maliciously to grant the wish using a method that produces other results undesirable to the wisher rather than there being any active malice on the Paw’s part.

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      5 hours ago

      How djinns grant wishes varies wildly in stories. Some are actively malicious, some try to grant the wish along the spirit of the wish, some are strictly literal with no actual malice intended. If the djinn is imprisoned and forced to grant wishes it does makes sense that they would “Monkey’s Paw” them if they’re able.

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      6 hours ago

      Yeah, even stories of “benevolent” djinn who want to help still backfire and those are the minority. Most are tricksters who want to fuck with you, so giving them some sort of logic loop is more likely that they break logic/causality than you’ll have them blue screen of death and poof away in a cloud of smoke

    • Sergio@piefed.social
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      6 hours ago

      I feel people here have the Disney idea of a genie rather than the true Middle Eastern idea of a djin.

      oooh that makes sense… I had a friend in cybersecurity who was always using the term “evil genie” to characterize how attackers would take any system you developed, and look for a way to use it against you.