• Dryad@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    I think that’s a big reason many Americans don’t vote. It’s not really a choice, just the perception of a choice and the spectacle of a contest.

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      Democrats are far from perfect, but the gulf between Democrats and Republicans is immense and the false “both sides” rhetoric is tiring and a big reason why we’re in this mess.

      Do you think we’d have war in Iran, no USAID, and dismantled regulatory agencies if Kamala had won the last election? There is a choice.

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        5 days ago

        Democrats are far from perfect

        Your daily reminder that BlueMaga liberals don’t consider non-westeners to be human, because that’s the only way you can describe active genocide as “not perfect”

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        Do you think we’d have war in Iran, no USAID, and dismantled regulatory agencies if Kamala had won the last election?

        100% I do think we’d be at war with Iran under Harris. The war was launched at Netenyahu’s demand and Biden’s white house had “no limits” when it came to Israel. When did Biden or Harris ever flat out say no to Israel and back it with actions? One weapon system being delayed for a few days and some propoganda vibes is what you lot base your entire argument on. Biden gave Israel anything and everything it wanted, and Harris is married to a frothing zionist, and he and his zionist brother ran her campaign. To suggest Harris would have been better or stronger is pure fantasy. AIPAC 100% runs the dems, and AIPAC would have gotten their war either way.

        https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2024-12/news/biden-continue-arming-israel-despite-insufficient-aid-gaza

        No Limits: The Biden Administration’s Support for Israel’s War on Gaza [https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/waf2.70009]

        Why is Biden/Harris’s stand on this matter ok with you? Why do you draw the line specifically at Iran war? Is it because it raised your gas prices, but you dont give a crap about what else Israel is doing with US taxpayer money?

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        No, I’ll agree with you in general, but I would also say that both sides are generally working for billionaires and operate generally as neoliberal parties. Biden even proudly confessed his capitalist convictions.

        I don’t disagree that if this last election had gone differently we’d be in a different probably better position, but I also don’t think we have universal healthcare. Plenty more nuance to that than will fit in a comments section, but yes I agree but there’s a lot more to it and people hear democratic promises but don’t often see democratic action.

        But also at this point it’s becoming less two neoliberal parties and more the neoliberal party and the fascist party, so yes I’ll 100% take the neoliberal over the fascist.

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        The choice was almost always, come to choose the lesser of two evils. Unfortunately people think by not voting it will somehow make a difference, when in reality it just shows that people give up when it’s too hard and expect someone else to fix it. The first basic step is always to keep the boulder from rolling further downhill by voting to prevent more decline. Given enough time, change can happen, you just have to realize it’s incredibly slow moving like evolution and requires more of us at the top instead of sitting on our hands and letting social influence turds fill the offices.
        It isn’t like this can’t be retaken, it just requires more than one person taking office.

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          5 days ago

          “we need to slow the decline by mindlessly voting for people who consistently continue the decline”

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          The choice was almost always, come to choose the lesser of two evils.

          The margin between lesser and greater evil keeps narrowing.