They have no demands or consequences laid out if those demands are not met, they have no clearly outlined goals or mission. A 3 hour event every few months isn’t inconveniencing any of the power structure or a threat to the status quo. Their ridiculously proposed 1 day general strike on May 1 will do nothing either as people will shift their purchases to another day. Anything other than a prolonged protest and general strike, with clear demands and goals, nothing will be accomplished.
It’s a pressure release value to prevent an actual uprising
Their ridiculously proposed 1 day general strike on May 1 will do nothing either as people will shift their purchases to another day.
You know, I don’t think you’re right about that. Doing a one day general strike does a couple things. The first is just make it easier for people to protest. If no one is buying things anyway, why even show up for work? The second is to prepare people for what a longer general strike would be like. There will be things that you don’t realize you buy without thinking. And it also challenges people to use what they already have or go without. And the third is that is still affects the numbers. If you don’t buy it today like you were planning… You might not buy it tomorrow either. Maybe you forget. Maybe you find an alternative. Plans can be cancelled for that day or week because of the logistics.
But, why don’t I just ask what you would rather happen instead? Because you post all over here and tantrum but you don’t really want to reveal what you actually want.
That’s a lot of maybes for situations that won’t happen. What does happen is people will either buy what they need the day before, the day after or on the actual day. Most of them are not engaging in an act of protest but an act of socializing. To many this is treated like a back yard party and not means for change and the oligarchy prefers it that way. It’s not a threat to their existence or harms profits.
There were a number of people helping organize protests and community action at our No King’s protest. Were you not involved with that? It seems like this particular socializing was helpful for recruiting and spreading a message, but you seem to be against it. Why? This would be (and was) a prime opportunity for it.
It’s not helpful for recruiting. Most people get over stimulated in large crowds and experience short term memory retention and cognitive fatigue. They may agree with everything you said in that moment and the brain filters it out shortly afterwards. Baby leftists have been chasing liberals at these type events for the years with no progress.
So, it’s for socializing, but also most people get over stimulated in large crowds? I suspect, then, that you must experience extreme difficulty in recruiting.
What does a protest look like to you? Clearly, this one is for baby leftists, whatever that is, but you must have an idea of what a protest is, then.
They have no demands or consequences laid out if those demands are not met, they have no clearly outlined goals or mission. A 3 hour event every few months isn’t inconveniencing any of the power structure or a threat to the status quo. Their ridiculously proposed 1 day general strike on May 1 will do nothing either as people will shift their purchases to another day. Anything other than a prolonged protest and general strike, with clear demands and goals, nothing will be accomplished.
It’s a pressure release value to prevent an actual uprising
I don’t know, calling for a general strike on May 1 seems pretty big.
You know, I don’t think you’re right about that. Doing a one day general strike does a couple things. The first is just make it easier for people to protest. If no one is buying things anyway, why even show up for work? The second is to prepare people for what a longer general strike would be like. There will be things that you don’t realize you buy without thinking. And it also challenges people to use what they already have or go without. And the third is that is still affects the numbers. If you don’t buy it today like you were planning… You might not buy it tomorrow either. Maybe you forget. Maybe you find an alternative. Plans can be cancelled for that day or week because of the logistics.
But, why don’t I just ask what you would rather happen instead? Because you post all over here and tantrum but you don’t really want to reveal what you actually want.
That’s a lot of maybes for situations that won’t happen. What does happen is people will either buy what they need the day before, the day after or on the actual day. Most of them are not engaging in an act of protest but an act of socializing. To many this is treated like a back yard party and not means for change and the oligarchy prefers it that way. It’s not a threat to their existence or harms profits.
Is socializing somehow counter or inhibitive to protesting? And are you basing this off firsthand experience or what’s portrayed in the media?
I’ve been actively organizing and mobilizing protest and community action since the 80s. This is from first hand experience
There were a number of people helping organize protests and community action at our No King’s protest. Were you not involved with that? It seems like this particular socializing was helpful for recruiting and spreading a message, but you seem to be against it. Why? This would be (and was) a prime opportunity for it.
It’s not helpful for recruiting. Most people get over stimulated in large crowds and experience short term memory retention and cognitive fatigue. They may agree with everything you said in that moment and the brain filters it out shortly afterwards. Baby leftists have been chasing liberals at these type events for the years with no progress.
So, it’s for socializing, but also most people get over stimulated in large crowds? I suspect, then, that you must experience extreme difficulty in recruiting.
What does a protest look like to you? Clearly, this one is for baby leftists, whatever that is, but you must have an idea of what a protest is, then.
I’ve been doing it since Ronald Reagan and ACTUP, so I’ve got quite a bit of experience on what works and what doesnt