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jankforlife@lemmy.mlBanned from community to Memes@lemmy.ml · 24 hours ago

The double standard

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The double standard

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jankforlife@lemmy.mlBanned from community to Memes@lemmy.ml · 24 hours ago
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    21 hours ago

    Lol, there is literally nothing pro-Russian about this. It has a Russian flag with the implication that liberals see anything Russia does as a war crime even if the same kind of (or worse) atrocities committed by the US are deemed “unfortunate but necessary.” In other words, you don’t even have to accept that Russia isn’t committing war crimes to recognize the truth of the double standard the meme is pointing out. You are a prime example of the kind of dingus this meme is making fun of.

    You, a liberal glimpsing a hint of reality for once in their western-propaganda-saturated life: “Russian Propaganda! [misgendering and/or homophobia]! Putin disinformatzia! [Racism!]” You haven’t gotten to the racism part yet, but the thread is young. Here, I’ll help you along by explaining some facts for you: Russia entered an ongoing civil war and put a stop to the ethnic cleansing that the Nazi Ukrainian government was perpetrating against Ukraine’s eastern population who desperately wanted help from Russia. Fortunately, Russia entering the conflict prevented many more war crimes from being committed by the fascist Kiev regime.

    Edit to add because this is just funny:

    Accounts shouldn’t be allowed to post more than twice a day in the same community

    What a great way to stymie a community and cut down on the thing we all hate: content. Your inability to understand how the world works seems to extend even to the fundamentals of internet forums.

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      21 hours ago

      You really believe that Ukraine is a Nazi regime, and you accuse others for falling for propaganda? Yikes

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        20 hours ago

        the american congress tried banned weapons sales to ukraine because of its nazis proclivities in 2015; how are you slower than congress on this?

        • goferking (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
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          19 hours ago

          Didn’t they just have a state funeral/celebration of an actual Nazi?

          https://www.timesofisrael.com/ukraine-reburies-nazi-collaborator-with-state-honors-drawing-israeli-condemnation/

          Israel criticized Ukraine on Monday after President Volodymyr Zelensky gave full state honors to a Ukrainian nationalist leader who was part of a movement that collaborated with the Nazis during World War II.

          Like they literally just celebrated a fucking nazi and Volodymyr Zelensky led it.

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            19 hours ago

            yes both poland and isreal already sent their own diplomatic fuck-you responses lol

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        21 hours ago

        Yes, and I believe it because I have been following what has been happening in Ukraine since well before February of 2022. The fact that you are unaware of this fact (even one recognized by western media before the SMO) is what is yikes. Thanks to u/freagle for providing some of the mountains of evidence demonstrating beyond all doubt that the Kiev regime is literally a Nazi regime, the most openly Nazi state regime in the world, in fact.

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        21 hours ago

        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/11/ultranationalism-in-ukraine-a-photo-essay

        https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/ukraine-has-nazi-problem-vladimir-putin-s-denazification-claim-war-ncna1290946

        https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2015-06-12/ukraine-s-neo-nazis-won-t-get-u-s-money

        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/10/azov-far-right-fighters-ukraine-neo-nazis

        https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/05/world/europe/nazi-symbols-ukraine.html

        https://www.reuters.com/article/world/in-ukraine-nationalists-gain-influence-and-scrutiny-idUSBREA2618D/

        https://truthout.org/articles/nyt-discovers-ukraines-neo-nazis-at-war/

        https://www.reuters.com/article/opinion/commentary-ukraines-neo-nazi-problem-idUSKBN1GV2TC/

        https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/ukraine-s-got-a-real-problem-with-far-right-violence-and-no-rt-didn-t-write-this-headline/

        https://thehill.com/opinion/international/359609-the-reality-of-neo-nazis-in-the-ukraine-is-far-from-kremlin-propaganda/

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          19 hours ago

          Don’t forget (pick the least worse reporting publication)

          https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/24/world/europe/ukraine-melnyk-nationalist-collaborator.html

          https://www.timesofisrael.com/ukraine-reburies-nazi-collaborator-with-state-honors-drawing-israeli-condemnation/

          https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2026/06/04/zelensky-s-rehabilitation-of-controversial-figures-in-ukrainian-nationalism-sparks-anger-in-israel-and-poland_6754112_4.html

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            12 hours ago

            Okay so some of your (both of yours) links require subscriptions and in not paying, but the about 5 articles I read exclusively talked about the Azov and one talked about the Colonel Melnyk reburial. Calling a Nazi collaborator from 1940s a hero is obviously a bad look, but that does not equal modern day Ukraine being Nazis.

            And literally all the other articles talk about some sort of far-right volunteer group of militias (Azov) fighting the Russian separatists. How is Azovs political standpoint in any way indicative of the Ukrainian state’s political view as a whole?

            Good luck to you guys!

            • goferking (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
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              It was 3 links but sure.

              Calling a Nazi collaborator from 1940s a hero is obviously a bad look, but that does not equal modern day Ukraine being Nazis.

              It does when it keeps happening.

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              7 hours ago

              How is Azovs political standpoint in any way indicative of the Ukrainian state’s political view as a whole?

              When the president keep meeting with them, giving prizes, shaking hands and do not comment about the neo-nazi part of it.

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