I feel sorry for them. But then again, this is what they want.

  • They oppose making parking expensive.

  • They oppose bus lanes

  • They oppose bike lanes.

  • They oppose trains

  • They oppose train stations.

  • They oppose congestion pricing.

They oppose any measure that might reduce car dependency.

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    No one is pointing out the other side of this that gets neglected and that is “the demand to live just outside the core but commute to the core daily”.

    That just does not work, full stop. There was a time that it seemed to work but we already reached the capacity.

    Even if we have great transportation, having people move so much on a daily basis is a bad idea.

    We really need to move away from the one big city mindset, but it’s not easy to do

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      Work from home should be encouraged. It helped a little during the pandemic, places outside of Toronto saw an influx of people; Orilla, Peterborough, Owen Sound. But Ford ordered all the employees back to the office, and now that model is suffering.

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      one big city is fine as long as you don’t want to have city where you work separate from the suburbs where you live. this is one completely artificially created expectation that only exist in america due to a century of car lobby and propaganda. if your work, doctor, pub, park and shop are all within 5-15min walk from your home and you can get everywhere else by public transport it’s ok if the city stretches wide and it is actually quite pleasant to live in (ymmv).

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      It works if you just have railways, the finger model is extremely good.

      (Finger model means cities like Copenhagen and Stockholm, where you have “fingers” of development stretching away from the “palm” in the middle, with each finger being built around a railway)