Found this graph online for anyone who might still be confused. I think this makes it much more clear.

  • Treczoks@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    In other western democracies, the US democrats are seen as the equivalent of the local conservative parties.

    There is no real US equivalent for European leftist / social-democratic parties. The US republicans, on the other hand, are like the borderline illegal Nazi / nationalist rightwing parties that Putin built up and strengthened in the last decades all across Europe

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    3 months ago

    Bernie isn’t far left by international standards, but I wouldn’t put him in the centre. Nobody in the centre is trying to make radical changes to things. What Bernie is proposing is pretty radical compared to where the US currently is. And, I think if those reforms actually passed, he’d still be trying to move things even more to the left.

    And Biden as “far right”? It has lost all meaning if you’re applying that label to him.

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      3 months ago

      Idk. Simping for a fascist ethnostate sure doesn’t seem left to me.

      … and it’s just a meme, homie.

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      3 months ago

      He stopped a rail worker strike for safer working conditions, then six moths latter there was a massive derailment and an environmental catastrophe in Ohio. You would call that left?

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    3 months ago

    You guys understand that this is subjective?

    They may not be left enough for you personally but they represent the political spectrum of in the US.

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      3 months ago

      Elected US Politicians represent the political spectrum of electoral US politics? Wow, thanks for the insight.

      The full spectrum on a left/right axis in a liberal democracy is actually not that subjective. It’s bordered on the left and right by people who actually reject the liberal democracy: the far left who want to overthrow the system to achieve better equality and conditions for the greater number, and the far right, who want to overthrow the system to achieve stronger privileges for the in-group they belong to.

      Indeed, US politicians do not represent the full spectrum of ideas in between those extremes. The political spectrum of the US is what it is, sure, and that’s actually what this meme is all about.

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        3 months ago

        Yes but every commenter in this thread is complaining that their supposed progressive representatives are in fact conservative.

        My point is, they represent the spectrum of the US, and by definition some are more progressive than others.