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    20 hours ago

    If you actually looked at the statistics, you’d know that’s not the case. Defensive gun use is not horseshit, but being a privileged liberal is.

    Guns are a tool of equality for all manner of marginalized and dispossessed people.

    How frightening it is that the statistical likelihood of accidental injury goes up for a family when a parent goes from carless to owning a car. It’s bullshit that we don’t have ubiquitous, safe public transit, but it’s also bullshit to demonize the most effective tool for the family’s to thrive in capitalism.

    • If you actually looked at the statistics, you’d know that’s not the case. Defensive gun use is not horseshit, but being a privileged liberal is.

      I did, did you? Crime victims who respond with a gun are 2.5 times less likely to get away from the offender than those who respond without one and 10 percent less likely to avoid injury.

      Guns are a tool of equality for all manner of marginalized and dispossessed people.

      This is an unhinged statement. Guns by definition are used to oppress the marginalized, weapons to force people to do what they do not want to do. To claim that they’re “tools of equality” is bizarre gun-industry propaganda. Women in abusive relationships are 5 times more likely to be killed if their partner owns a gun. Women in the US are 28 times more likely to die to firearm homicide. “Shoot first” laws increase the odds that a minority is a victim of a violent crime (an anecdotal example is Ahmoud Arbery, who was shot and killed for the crime of jogging while black).

      You also mentioned that 69k is an “extreme low”, but it’s likely an overestimation since it includes non-legal DGUs. Even then, the statistics show that this is less than 1% of property crimes and in nearly 60% of those cases the perpetrators weren’t even armed. The picture that the NRA likes to push, legally using a gun against an armed stranger in a home invasion, is so rare there’s not enough reports to even find a semi-accurate number.

      Meanwhile, violent crime goes up if gun ownership does (when compensating for other factors like GINI): https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0094119025000269

      Your argumentation reeks of “Gun Culture 2.0”, the project that the NRA is pushing to promote guns for personal safety in a dangerous world (as opposed to “Gun Culture 1.0”, where the main motivation for owning a gun was hunting and recreational shooting). It’s heavily pushed through a lot of propaganda in pro-gun magazines and commercials, ignoring all statistics showing owning a gun makes you less safe, and that the world around you in general is becoming safer overall over time.

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        19 hours ago

        Yikes capitalist apologist liberals get real mask off around guns

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            19 hours ago

            Sure, just like Guevara, and the anarcho-syndicalists of the CNT, we care for nothing more than the corporations? The fuck. Get class conscious, you’re clearly a boot-licking liberal

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              19 hours ago

              Listen, gun manufacturers pushing death on our society is not about class solidarity. Keep telling yourself that as you lick their boots.

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                19 hours ago

                Buddy, eventually you’ll realize the “gun manufacturers” rhetoric is propogated by the (owned) media to muddy the waters in yet another artificially identarian scheme by the bourgeoisie.

                Why? To create division, like all machinations of identity politics. But also to plant seeds that short-circuit the logic of the armed proletariat with emotions.

                “Pushing death” is transferred culpability, absolving individuals of moral agency. The fact that arms manufacturers lobby the corrupt government to create warzones and kill innocents should make you mad at the people allowing that the happen, maybe even mad enough to arm yourself.

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                  18 hours ago

                  Oh wow that is a new one, did you just make that up.

                  Mad enough to buy weapons to arm myself to kill my fellow Americans? Hard pass.