• zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      4 months ago

      I am telling this for months. A couple of months ago I was downvoted to abyss because “no we need to be peaceful because that’s how you solve problems”. No fucker. Do you think all people in Germany between 1935-1945 were silent? Protesters were killed en masse and literally nothing changed.

      Learn from the past. Arm yourself. You outnumber them easily. They will stop shooting at you, when they look into 100 armed people.

    • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
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      4 months ago

      At which point you now give them free rein to just switch to auto and hose down the crowd.

      Welcome to the joys of protesting. Unless you are going geared up for a riot, all protests are inherently “peaceful protests” where you are standing with your hands tied behind your back waiting for the blow. Because if you fight back any more than what is socially acceptable (often times pushing against riot shields), you will die. And so will everyone around you. And the people down the street. And that couple who were unfortunate enough to live above the bodega on 5th street.

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        4 months ago

        How did compliance work out for that lady in her car?

        They don’t need a fucking reason.

        We are past the point where being “one of the good ones” makes you less likely to get killed. Time to be a hard target instead of a victim.

        • FiniteBanjo@feddit.online
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          4 months ago

          If you think that lady in her car is the worst that can happen and that we no longer need to show any restraint, then you have a profound lack of knowledge of history. If a group of citizens start raiding federal offices, the military are going to get involved in defence of the federal offices.

          And maybe that’s okay, honestly, maybe we do need to make a stand when things like this happen, but be fucking prepared and be honest about what’s about to happen because it will not be pretty.

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            I don’t know why you’re being downvoted. People really can’t handle uncomfortable truths. They’ve never seen war, don’t know what it’s like. It probably hasn’t clicked for them yet that they don’t get to respawn when they die. They don’t understand the unfathomable amount of pain that comes with getting shot. They don’t comprehend how irrevocable any act of violence is, or the responsibility that comes with permanently altering the course of history.

            I mean sure, something needs to be done, but these people don’t stand a chance against a militarized police force with modern equipment and a virtually unlimited budget.

            They don’t understand the level of coordination it would take, the organization and the discipline required. The manpower, the combat experience, the heavy equipment. Small arms wouldn’t cut it. They’re not prepared. They don’t understand what sort of preparation that sort of thing would require.

            These are the same idiots who were saying before the election, “it’s better if trump wins because it will hasten the revolution.” Damn fools, there is no revolution. Not one that can succeed. The time to stop this was on election day, and we failed, because idiots like these thought call of duty was real life.

            And then they downvote you for telling them war isn’t pretty. Pathetic.

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              4 months ago

              To be honest I don’t think all of the downvotes are legitimate, I’m sure the pro-Russian and pro-Chinese are tipping the scales in these discussions to promote violence whenever possible.

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      4 months ago

      I love Lemmy because of the way people of voting on comments on this thread. People are sharing their true feelings instead of the brainwashed safe for Reddit opinions that people have been conditioned to share online.

      G g g guys… Don’t fight back, that’s what he wants. Just get a shovel and dig a hole in your backyard and bury yourself in it. It’s the only way to stop the violence…

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      4 months ago

      Saw this posted somewhere. Not my words, but I and many Americans I know agree with this:

      "To everyone outside the US who’s angry at Americans right now, especially those of us who hate Trump and feel trapped: Please understand this. We do not elect our president the way you think we do. Millions of us voted against him. Millions of us are terrified of the damage being done. We are not cheering this on. We are living inside it. If you’re wondering why we don’t just “revolt like the French” or “fix it” here is the reality of being an American right now:

      Our system is rigid, slow, and stacked in ways that make “just revolt” a fantasy. We don’t have a culture where mass strikes shut the country down overnight. We don’t have a centralized government you can pressure in one city. We have fifty states, militarized policing, surveillance, debt, and jobs tied to health insurance. For many people, losing a job for protesting means losing healthcare and housing.

      France is smaller than Texas. Organizing a “national” revolt across 3.8 million square miles (9.8 million square km) and 330 million people isn’t just difficult, it’s logistically close to impossible. That doesn’t mean we’re complacent. It means we’re constrained. Anger at US power is fair. Fear of US decisions is fair. But blaming every American, especially those who are fighting, exhausted, and scared alongside you, misses the mark.

      We’re not watching this from the sidelines. We’re stuck in the same burning house. Just closer to the fire."

      Edit: I believe credit goes to Jason Gervase, ASL Pinnacle

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        Basically you say you are fucked and your hands are tied. The pedo-president and his folks can do whatever they want now. Thanks, that’s nice.

        But either way, in my opinion the anger is still justified. You could and should have fought more before the elections to try and convince Trump voters to not vote for him.

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    4 months ago

    while im 100% against ICE, Trump and the deportations, you can see the guy grabbing the ICE agent’s gun… thats not a smart move