This is huge
The right-wing candidate who said “stop the war on cars” was defeated.
The leftist who said “My goal is to make sure Grégoire loses” was defeated
This is huge
The right-wing candidate who said “stop the war on cars” was defeated.
The leftist who said “My goal is to make sure Grégoire loses” was defeated
If you consider the french socialists to be left then… Idk. Maybe you need to curate more what your information sources are.
They don’t play well with any leftist parties, not necessarily the socialists (who are iirc pretty center these days). LFI is quite abrasive.
They are the biggest player in the left. They want to unify the left around them. Other parties do not want this because they all want to share the pie. I’d say they are the biggest team players and the others are retarded. They twice now took the initiative to rally the entire left around them and yet they are somehow the ones not playing nice.
No, they want the other left parties to agree to all their conditions and refuse to compromise on their positions. I’m all for a united left but LFI is a big part of the problem.
So the biggest player with the most success so far should compromise to the people who wants to push a liberal agenda?
This makes no sense. You cannot do fuck all for years, loose your base, alienate everybody and then come to say “hey stop bullying me and accept my conditions, also you’re antisemitic, and I hate the way you speak”.
Yes, they should compromise. They’re obviously not big enough to win on their own, so they should compromise like all the others. They refuse to do so, and the logical consequence is that other parties refuse to join them.
If you think that having more popularity makes them the absolute authority of the left and every other party should bow to their ideas, we have nothing to discuss.
They refuse to compromise with parties less liberal than them as well, by the way. They refuse to compromise no matter the agenda.
What specific issues do you think they refuse to compromise on? Islamoleftism? Genocide being bad?
I’ll let you have a look at the difference of opinions between LFI and every other left party. All those differences are issues they refuse to compromise on :)
Just give me one.
You miss the points. To quote someone else “you don’t have the cards”.
When your party is irrelevant and you want to push your agenda and slander the other bigger boy, ofc you gonna get bullied. That’s how life works.
If they had no cards, LFI wouldn’t need them. You’re contradicting yourself.
… They don’t need them. They want them to work together yet the others spit on their face everytime they have the chance.
Get rid of Melenchon and we can talk.
Why? Because the hardlib hate him?
For those with their eyes filled with sawdust: Because he turned into a piece of populistic shit. Also, as you don’t seem to be living in France, for good or bad reasons, loads of people hate him and fear him, and will never ever vote for him.
So let’s keep him so that they will never win, right, to own the euh, “hardlibs”, by getting Bardela elected instead. That’ll teach the, euh “hardlibs”.
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Bro if only this was my call
I would have upvoted you til you used an ableist slur. You could have made your argument perfectly well - in fact, even stronger - if you chose a specific word that more closely matches the problem. It isn’t that they’re intellectually disabled, it’s because they are too blinded by ideology to take a pragmatic approach. I’d just say “…the others aren’t pragmatic enough to put aside their differences” or something.
No. This has nothing to do with pragmatism. This is the fucking ruling class shitting their pants because they fear the loss of their privileges. The PS is nothing more than cockroaches trying everything to keep the little bit of power they have.
Do you imagine if you had to find a proper job after being an elected PS official for years? What would you out in your CV? Traitor (Faure)? CIA asset (Glucksman)? "I successfully lead a party to its ruin (Holland, Valls)?
Right, okay, that’s fine – my point is that the problem isn’t intellectual disability, and even if it was, you shouldn’t use the r-slur. I am disabled and I have had that word weaponized against me my entire life, and seeing it used brings back memories of all of the times I was bullied and harassed for being different.
Sorry that happened to you buddy ♥️
I can understand this. If it clears things up in my world retarded! = disabled.
In my head, retarded is someone who’s purposefully going out if his way to be as stupid as possible. Just like dude or bro is genderless. Idk if this makes sense for you, tho.
I’m sorry if you felt attacked. This was not the goal.
I get what you’re saying, but unfortunately we don’t live in your world, we live in the real world, where the term “mental retardation” was historically used to refer to intellectual disability, and has since been weaponized against disabled people and is used as a negative slur all the time.
I understand that you used it without harmful intent, but what I am trying to express to you is that it doesn’t matter what your intent was, much like the n-word, the word has baggage and causes real world harm, and further marginalizes some of the most marginalized people in society.
Please, have some compassion, just choose to use some other word or turn of phrase instead, is it really that hard?