Lesser of two evils. Directly endorsing a browser based on googles codebase, known for crypto and having a scummy ceo , or endorsing a browser thats only real fault is “under capitalism, they need to be funded by the competitor so the competitor can dodge a fine”
and defining “lesser” is where people disagree. Some don’t care about the ceo of their tech products, they just care about the product itself. The crypto is an alternative source of funding, that some might prefer over getting funds from Google’s data empire. And being based on Chrome means it supports more websites.
My point is that using brave doesn’t mean they support crypto or homophobic CEOs, for many it’s just their definition of the lesser of two evils
Some don’t care about the ceo of their tech products
and some do, and will regard those that don’t care as people who can’t be bothered to advocate for the less privileged through minuscule actions.
And being based on Chrome means it supports more websites.
already gave a list of alternatives that use the chromium engine in this thread.
for many it’s just their definition of the lesser of two evils
Again, welcome to have that opinion. Doesn’t change the fact that other people are impacted by an individual’s decision and they will base their judgements of the individual on those impacts.
Every decision has an impact. Google’s data empire impacts the less privileged too. So yeah, other people are impacted by people’s decision to use Firefox, and they can judge those individuals based on those impacts.
Is the browser bad, or is the creator of the browser bad?
They’re both bad.
CEO has been discussed ad infinitum so, here’s why I dont like the browser and feel it is bad:
Its a bloated version of chromium. Its got too many stupid fucking settings you need to turn off to have a halfway decent experience. Examples include (but are not limited to) autofill, brave wallet, brave AI, brave sidebar, braves proxy search engine, that weird brave triangle crypto rewards icon
In addition to that, it’s also chromium based. You are using a browser that supports googles monopoly on the internet.
You can very easily use Cromite (multiplat), Ungoogled Chromium (Desktop), or Vandium (GrapheneOS) if you need a chromium based browser for work or some edge case, and in my experience they feel a lot lighter and faster by default. Cromite has even developed extension support for Android, which to my knowledge is the only chromium based android browser to do so.
If you dont have one of those edge cases, why even support googles monopoly on internet traffic if you don’t need to? LibreWolf, Mullvad Browser, Waterfox, Celenitys Pheonix, IronFox, Tor, Fennec, Floorp so on and so fourth exist. They’re all fantastic, and they cover pretty much every workflow and threat model.
I have a lot of that turned off, I hadnt realized it was such an issue to others. I guess I am pretty likely to fiddle with things.
Support of elgooG is a good reason to convert to another browser.
Cromite does sound more appealing now, I usually have around 50 tabs open, so I dont know how it would handle that. But its definitely worth my time to look into.
Thanks for an actual response! I will probably change my browser because of your recommendations and explanation of why those alternatives are better. I guess Ill do that during lunch or when I get home from work.
… Definitely looking up Floorp because it seems like a great thing to name a browser
On Android I can say Cromite handles lots of tabs pretty well, I forget to close them so I currently have the “:D” icon instead of a number.
I’m happy to hear the response was good, ive had my share of people on lemmy just dismissing whatever is said so it is nice to hear its appreciated.
Floorp isn’t my jam but I do find it interesting. Despite my bitching I believe they’re trying to go for something similar to default brave but with more UI customization (and less crypto and paid services). I tried it out a couple years ago before Firefox had the sidebar option, but Floorp did have a sidebar. I was kinda curious about having a sidebar but it wasnt for me.
can you back up that claim
you are allowed to have that opinion, but that opinion signifies to other people you are okay with crypto schemes and homophobia.
by that logic, everybody who uses Firefox and forks must be okay with Google’s data empire, because that’s what funds Firefox
Lesser of two evils. Directly endorsing a browser based on googles codebase, known for crypto and having a scummy ceo , or endorsing a browser thats only real fault is “under capitalism, they need to be funded by the competitor so the competitor can dodge a fine”
and defining “lesser” is where people disagree. Some don’t care about the ceo of their tech products, they just care about the product itself. The crypto is an alternative source of funding, that some might prefer over getting funds from Google’s data empire. And being based on Chrome means it supports more websites.
My point is that using brave doesn’t mean they support crypto or homophobic CEOs, for many it’s just their definition of the lesser of two evils
and some do, and will regard those that don’t care as people who can’t be bothered to advocate for the less privileged through minuscule actions.
already gave a list of alternatives that use the chromium engine in this thread.
Again, welcome to have that opinion. Doesn’t change the fact that other people are impacted by an individual’s decision and they will base their judgements of the individual on those impacts.
Every decision has an impact. Google’s data empire impacts the less privileged too. So yeah, other people are impacted by people’s decision to use Firefox, and they can judge those individuals based on those impacts.
“I can choose to kill 1 person or 2 people. i guess I will kill 2 people because every decision has an impact.”
Which one is the “killing 2 people” one here? Whichever you pick, I’m sure many would disagree
i can,its a fast browser with a great adblocker. all google services work perfectly with it,unlike some cases with firefox.
that’s googles fault not firefox
these kinda of things dont really matter whos fault it is. the user will just see it and blame the browser.
you’re not wrong but the user is an idiot
i’m not going to celebrate their short sighted decisions
stupid laziness is half the reason we’re all racing to the bottom
if people would take the 10min to halfway think about the choices they make
https://www.google.com/chrome/
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpalhdlnbpafiamejdnhcphjbkeiagm
except ubo will stop working soon on chrome. and ubo lite adblocking isnt that good. brave adblocker will still work and works good
Its more up to you to say what its problems are.
Claims need to be supported, you dont try to counter an unsubstantiated claim.
My claim: I have never had any ads on brave. Seems fine to me.
Claim of the poster: The creator of the browser is homophobic and apparently some people encounter advertisements.
Your claim, thusfar: How is it a good browser?
I will respond, assuming I understand your claim that has no supporting or explanatory statements: No ads.
Heres my response to the claim: Is the browser bad, or is the creator of the browser bad?
They’re both bad.
CEO has been discussed ad infinitum so, here’s why I dont like the browser and feel it is bad:
Its a bloated version of chromium. Its got too many stupid fucking settings you need to turn off to have a halfway decent experience. Examples include (but are not limited to) autofill, brave wallet, brave AI, brave sidebar, braves proxy search engine, that weird brave triangle crypto rewards icon
In addition to that, it’s also chromium based. You are using a browser that supports googles monopoly on the internet.
You can very easily use Cromite (multiplat), Ungoogled Chromium (Desktop), or Vandium (GrapheneOS) if you need a chromium based browser for work or some edge case, and in my experience they feel a lot lighter and faster by default. Cromite has even developed extension support for Android, which to my knowledge is the only chromium based android browser to do so.
If you dont have one of those edge cases, why even support googles monopoly on internet traffic if you don’t need to? LibreWolf, Mullvad Browser, Waterfox, Celenitys Pheonix, IronFox, Tor, Fennec, Floorp so on and so fourth exist. They’re all fantastic, and they cover pretty much every workflow and threat model.
I have a lot of that turned off, I hadnt realized it was such an issue to others. I guess I am pretty likely to fiddle with things.
Support of elgooG is a good reason to convert to another browser.
Cromite does sound more appealing now, I usually have around 50 tabs open, so I dont know how it would handle that. But its definitely worth my time to look into.
Thanks for an actual response! I will probably change my browser because of your recommendations and explanation of why those alternatives are better. I guess Ill do that during lunch or when I get home from work.
… Definitely looking up Floorp because it seems like a great thing to name a browser
On Android I can say Cromite handles lots of tabs pretty well, I forget to close them so I currently have the “:D” icon instead of a number.
I’m happy to hear the response was good, ive had my share of people on lemmy just dismissing whatever is said so it is nice to hear its appreciated.
Floorp isn’t my jam but I do find it interesting. Despite my bitching I believe they’re trying to go for something similar to default brave but with more UI customization (and less crypto and paid services). I tried it out a couple years ago before Firefox had the sidebar option, but Floorp did have a sidebar. I was kinda curious about having a sidebar but it wasnt for me.